So I had a talk with RayAlome today in regards to Heroes, what’s happened so far and what’s to come. I thought it was quite interesting and wanted to share it with you guys. It might contain major spoilers, or it may not. Reader beware.
Discussion 1: (Show)
Krunk4Ever (5:16:42): i have a question regarding what the little girl said
Krunk4Ever (5:16:50): let me know when you finish watching episode 2
Ray AlOm3 (15:43:08): that ep was enjoyable, so was the whole thing 5 weeks out of phase
Ray AlOm3 (15:43:13): or just the parts with hiro
Krunk4Ever (17:03:03): hehe
Krunk4Ever (17:03:08): so my question is
Krunk4Ever (17:03:15): is the guy who can read minds
Krunk4Ever (17:03:16): siler?
Krunk4Ever (17:03:18): syler?
Krunk4Ever (17:03:22): syla
Krunk4Ever (17:03:27): or whatever his name is?
Ray AlOm3 (17:03:53): oh no
Ray AlOm3 (17:03:55): he is not
Ray AlOm3 (17:04:08): that guy is the one who has been making people flip their lids
Krunk4Ever (17:04:15): yes
Krunk4Ever (17:04:20): but did you hear what the girl said?
Ray AlOm3 (17:04:34): he may also be the patient zero you hear talking to the indian dude’s father on the phone
Krunk4Ever (17:04:48): syla is patient 0
Krunk4Ever (17:05:00): as confirmed by the answering machine thingy
Krunk4Ever (17:05:10): but if you listen closely to what the little girl said:
Krunk4Ever (17:05:15): when the cop found her
Krunk4Ever (17:05:21): Another interesting fact upon reviewing was when you’re listening to the girls thoughts, I think she actually said, “You hurt my mom and dad. Please don’t hurt me.” Did NBC just review who Siler is? or at least the murderer of this case. Is Siler going around trying to eliminate all the other hereos? If you have heroes, you must have villains I suppose.
Krunk4Ever (17:06:11): i personally don’t think the police is siler
Krunk4Ever (17:06:16): but someone in that room was
Ray AlOm3 (17:06:20): no I don’t think so either
Krunk4Ever (17:06:32): and my hunch is one of the 2 female agents
Ray AlOm3 (17:06:57): could be
Ray AlOm3 (17:07:08): did he get a read on both?
Krunk4Ever (17:07:16): yeah
Krunk4Ever (17:07:37): but the lead just thought he’s worthless
Krunk4Ever (17:07:43): and the other thought, can he read minds?
Ray AlOm3 (17:07:46): BTW so as far as hiro goes was he the only one who’s storyline was weeks later
Krunk4Ever (17:07:51): yes
Krunk4Ever (17:07:56): because if you remember
Krunk4Ever (17:08:01): the brother was already elected
Ray AlOm3 (17:08:17): ahhhhh I get ya
Krunk4Ever (17:08:22): also, one of the paintings
Krunk4Ever (17:08:33): showed an image of the thumbdrive code
Krunk4Ever (17:08:41): that weird curve like key thingy
Krunk4Ever (17:08:43): not sure if you noticed
Ray AlOm3 (17:08:49): i did not
Ray AlOm3 (17:08:55): but I’m sure you’re right
Krunk4Ever (17:08:58): and when they were looking at the genetic sequence
Krunk4Ever (17:09:08): there was a few seconds when that shape flew by
Krunk4Ever (17:09:21): do you think the neighbor has super powers?
Ray AlOm3 (17:09:38): quite possible would explain why father got so close with her
Krunk4Ever (17:09:43): or is she with the villains
Krunk4Ever (17:09:48): trying to get data
Krunk4Ever (17:09:54): and the whole thing was planned out
Krunk4Ever (17:09:57): a switcheroo type thing
Ray AlOm3 (17:09:58): ooooo that would be terrible
Krunk4Ever (17:10:08): but then again
Krunk4Ever (17:10:12): the iguana
Krunk4Ever (17:10:15): the thumbdrive
Krunk4Ever (17:10:20): the answering machine
Krunk4Ever (17:10:27): maybe they couldn’t figure out the thumbdrive
Krunk4Ever (17:10:36): i mean the iguanas aquarium
Krunk4Ever (17:10:42): is like the 1st place i’d look
Krunk4Ever (17:10:50): the others shouldnt have missed it
Krunk4Ever (17:11:13): so now they need his help.
Krunk4Ever (17:11:18): that’s why they aren’t killing him
Krunk4Ever (17:11:22): like they killed his father
Krunk4Ever (17:11:34): i mean what more worth does the son have that the father didn’t
Krunk4Ever (17:11:38): the murder was a mistake
Ray AlOm3 (17:12:46): I think it occured just like the guy who was going to shoot him
Ray AlOm3 (17:12:49): they didn’t want to
Ray AlOm3 (17:12:54): but they were found out
Krunk4Ever (17:13:23): you think that guy would’ve shot him?
Krunk4Ever (17:13:47): if anything
Krunk4Ever (17:13:50): he’d shoot to disable
Krunk4Ever (17:13:52): not to kill
Ray AlOm3 (17:14:49): But I mean they’re still only human
Krunk4Ever (17:14:58): so it was an error?
Ray AlOm3 (17:15:04): very well could have been
Krunk4Ever (17:15:15): do you think that other professor is in on it
Krunk4Ever (17:15:32): i mean his responsibility was to relay the father’s death
Krunk4Ever (17:15:43): i mean, how do we even know the father’s dead?
Ray AlOm3 (17:15:44): lots of possibilities
Krunk4Ever (17:15:56): unless that whole part was removed
Krunk4Ever (17:16:02): we haven’t seen his corpse yet
Ray AlOm3 (17:16:03): ohhhhh
Ray AlOm3 (17:16:12): you know, what’s to say it wasn’t patient 0
Ray AlOm3 (17:16:21): maybe it wasn’t the organization at all
Ray AlOm3 (17:17:12): do you think all of season 1 is gonna be just stopping the deaths and the “explosion” or whatever it was
Krunk4Ever (17:17:36): i dont think it’s about stopping the deaths
Krunk4Ever (17:17:39): just the explosion
Krunk4Ever (17:17:52): and syla would probably be reviewed in the last episode
Krunk4Ever (17:17:54): making season 2
Krunk4Ever (17:17:59): trying to stop syla
Krunk4Ever (17:18:05): so my question is
Krunk4Ever (17:18:15): do you think the painter
Krunk4Ever (17:18:20): paints what the future holds
Krunk4Ever (17:18:26): or paints what the future becomes?
Krunk4Ever (17:18:37): in other words, is the future determined, so he paints
Krunk4Ever (17:18:40): or his paintings determine the future
Ray AlOm3 (17:19:09): i think if hiro made a change
Krunk4Ever (17:19:13): i wonder if hiro can also bring along others through time/space continuum
Ray AlOm3 (17:19:23): or planned to make a change baded on observations
Ray AlOm3 (17:19:26): his drawings would change
Ray AlOm3 (17:19:41): he prob can as he practices
Krunk4Ever (17:19:50): his drawings changing doesn’t answer the question though
Ray AlOm3 (17:19:59): oh and can the painter only use the power when on drugs?
Krunk4Ever (17:20:04): no
Krunk4Ever (17:20:08): wait…
Krunk4Ever (17:20:09): i dunno
Krunk4Ever (17:20:16): didnt he try to go cold turkey
Krunk4Ever (17:20:20): but then he ODed
Krunk4Ever (17:20:38): another interesting thing is the fact
Krunk4Ever (17:20:41): there was a gun
Krunk4Ever (17:20:46): when i dont think the victim got shot
Krunk4Ever (17:20:51): just sliced his head in half
Krunk4Ever (17:21:14): do you remember the comic?
Krunk4Ever (17:21:26): of hiro that still hasn’t been published
Krunk4Ever (17:21:35): he was on a cell phone
Ray AlOm3 (17:22:32): did the comic show hiro doing something he hadn’t done in th past?
Krunk4Ever (17:24:02): reviewing right now
Ray AlOm3 (17:24:05): kk
Ray AlOm3 (17:24:18): it looked to me like it was all stuff from ep1
Krunk4Ever (17:24:25): hmmm
Krunk4Ever (17:24:28): i think
Krunk4Ever (17:24:34): this is actually the interogatin
Krunk4Ever (17:24:38): no no
Krunk4Ever (17:24:50): if you zoom to that part right before he gets caught holding the gun
Krunk4Ever (17:24:54): there’s a 3 panel comic
Krunk4Ever (17:24:59): of him calling his friend
Krunk4Ever (17:25:03): 2nd panel says:
Krunk4Ever (17:25:06): October 2nd.
Krunk4Ever (17:25:17): October 2nd? No, pal
Krunk4Ever (17:25:23): today is november 5th
Krunk4Ever (17:25:36): and then a shock look on his face
Ray AlOm3 (17:25:49): ok, then what he draws is what happens
Krunk4Ever (17:25:53): yep
Krunk4Ever (17:26:05): i guess that actually doesnt matter
Krunk4Ever (17:26:13): if i can draw somethign the future can happen
Krunk4Ever (17:26:38): having the future determine what i draw
Krunk4Ever (17:26:48): is not distinguishable
Krunk4Ever (17:27:31): if i draw some random picture and that happens, what is to say that the future wasn’t already determined when i drew that
Krunk4Ever (17:27:50): so that question has no answer, as it goes in circles
Ray AlOm3 (17:28:21): do you think that wave of destruction was a bomb or someone using a crazy power
Krunk4Ever (17:28:33): i have no idea yet
Krunk4Ever (17:28:44): but i’m pretty sure syla has started to build a team
Krunk4Ever (17:28:48): of super villains
Ray AlOm3 (17:29:24): what about the cheerleaders dad do you think he’s good or bad
Krunk4Ever (17:29:35): he’s made out to be a bad guy so far
Krunk4Ever (17:29:48): but i’m undecided on him for now
Ray AlOm3 (17:29:53): kk
Krunk4Ever (17:30:07): he might just be naturally creepyy
Krunk4Ever (17:30:13): though he did steal the tape
If you missed this in Episode 2:
The painting of a key like curve when Hiro was searching for the painter in his studio, right before he picks up the gun and gets caught
Key like curve that scrolls across the screen when the son is looking at the genetric data on his father’s USB thumbdrive. It’s a lot easier to see when the screen is scrolling, but you can see the … that form the shape.
Discussion 2: (Show)
Ray AlOm3 (18:17:14): oooooooo
Krunk4Ever (18:17:15): the key’s alot easier to see
Ray AlOm3 (18:17:17): well i’ll be
Krunk4Ever (18:17:19): when it’s moving
Krunk4Ever (18:17:32): cause it’s quite evident with the dots
Ray AlOm3 (18:18:09): that’s so subtle
Ray AlOm3 (18:18:23): I would never have noticed it if you didn’t point it out
Ray AlOm3 (18:18:53): so considering those are wildcards in the genome of the special individuals
Ray AlOm3 (18:19:03): do you think its part of some higher thought
Krunk4Ever (18:20:21): not sure yet
Krunk4Ever (18:20:30): by higher though
Krunk4Ever (18:20:40): you mean someone genetically manufacturing super hereos?
Krunk4Ever (18:20:49): or well
Krunk4Ever (18:20:52): peole with special powers
Ray AlOm3 (18:20:59): could be humans or some super-smart god
Krunk4Ever (18:21:12): ah
Krunk4Ever (18:21:14): hmmm
Krunk4Ever (18:21:20): i dont think god comes into play
Krunk4Ever (18:21:26): or least i hope not
Krunk4Ever (18:21:41): it’d be the easy way out to explain this
Ray AlOm3 (18:21:43): hahaha, intelligent design 😉
Krunk4Ever (18:21:50): yah. ;p